昨日,FIFA国际足联世界足球先生候选名单揭晓——前三是C罗,莫德里奇,萨拉赫。梅西12年来首次落选该奖前3。最终获奖者将于9月24日,在伦敦举行的FIFA年度颁奖典礼上公布。
小编选取了国外最大的体育论坛reddit上关于该话题的有趣讨论,一起来看看吧。
[–]【Liverpool】_Corrin 581 points 12 hours ago
I just kicked my 4 year old son in the shins because Messi didn't get nominated
梅西没入选,我刚朝我4岁的孩子腿上踹了一脚
[–]【Manchester United】pepsexual 235 points 11 hours ago
Cheers sons crying. Nice one
可以,孩子哭了。这下爽了
[–]【Crystal Palace】CypherMic 122 points 11 hours ago
Can't blame him, no military service
不能怪他,毕竟孩子没当过兵没挨过打
[–]【Chelsea】zaree15 388 points 13 hours ago*
Considering that the award has national team coaches, national team captains, media, fans all having a 25% vote, it's staggering to not see Messi in the top 3. I guess people are considering UCL first when it comes to voting.
考虑到这个奖项是由国家队教练、国家队队长、媒体和粉丝各占25%的票数,梅西没进前三真的很让人震惊。我猜现在每当投票的时候大家都首先考虑的是欧冠。
[–]【Real Madrid】ThomasGravesen 115 points 12 hours ago
And the WC
还有世界杯
[–]【Arsenal】amazingspiderman23 282 points 12 hours ago
But both of them don't explain Salah's inclusion over Messi.
但是这俩都无法解释为什么萨拉赫压过了梅西。
[–]【England】DuanneOlivier 202 points 12 hours ago
Are you taking the mickey? I can't believe I'm actually defending a Liverpool player but, Salah had a vastly better UCL season than Messi.
你是来搞笑的吗?难以置信我竟然要给一个利物浦球员辩护,但是萨拉赫这个欧冠赛季比梅西强多了。
[–]【Real Madrid】SimpleBoy07 116 points 11 hours ago*
Not only UCL but Salah also dominated the league like Messi.Breaking the PL record for most goals scored is bloody impressive.
不仅是欧冠,萨拉赫联赛表现也是像梅西一样统治级的。打破英超进球纪录绝对亮瞎。
[–]【England】HKAGooner 594 points 13 hours ago
Messi not being here is genuinely madness. Seems as though Griezmann was ranked higher than him too which is bullshit.
没有梅西真的是疯了。似乎格列兹曼的顺位还比他高,这点也是很扯淡。
[–]CombustibLemon 327 points 12 hours ago
Messi was the best individual on the planet last season and didn't even make the shortlist.
The award has become a complete joke.
上个赛季梅西是这个星球上最出色的球员,甚至都没能进前三候选。
这个奖项已经完全沦为笑话了。
[–]【Barcelona】TopographyDog 201 points 12 hours ago
Voter Fatigue. Same reason as why LeBron only has 4 MVP awards, and none since 2013, despite clearly being the best player in the league over that period, by a large margin. When you set your own standards so ridiculously high, people just come to expect that from you, and it becomes normalized, despite the fact that you’re head and shoulders above everyone else.
投票疲劳。因为同样的原因勒布朗才拿了4次MVP,而且自从2013年之后就没拿过了,虽然他明显是那个阶段联盟最强的球员,大幅压过其他人。当你把自己的标准设定到这种夸张的高度,人们开始将此当做你的应有标准,变成了常态,虽然事实上你已经比其他人高出一大截了。
[–]bharatmatakijai123 650 points 13 hours ago
Messi not being there is disgraceful. Every player should be judged through objective standards, not by the standards that the player has set for himself. Fucking stupid.
梅西没有入选,这奖项太无耻了吧。所有球员都应该通过客观的标准来检验,而不是通过球员为自己设定的标准。真他妈愚蠢。
[–]【Atlético Madrid】OleoleCholoSimeone 317 points 13 hours ago*
it's *ucfk**ing incredible. He carried Barcelona so hard last season, they played poorly for most of the season, and without Messi saving them in so many occasions the league race would have been a lot closer.
There is not a single statistic that Ronaldo outperformed Messi in last season. Not goals, not assists, not key passes, not amount of dribbles completed. But he was better in a handful of CL-games(also playing for a team that is specialized in the Champions League). Messi has always been the more talented individual, and Ronaldo's chance was to outscore him, and when he doesn't do that there is no argument left
Absolute robbery IMO
太他妈难以置信了。上赛季一人carry巴萨,他们一整个赛季发挥都不怎么样,要是没有梅西救场的话联赛指不定会有多惊险。
上赛季C罗也没有一项数据指标超过梅西的。进球、助攻、关键传球、盘带成功全都被压制。但是他在个别几场欧冠比赛里发挥更出色(而且效力的还是一支欧冠基因的球队)。梅西一直都是更具天赋的个人,而C罗唯一的机会就是要比梅西进更多球,当C罗连进球都不如的时候,还有什么争议吗
个人觉得完全就是抢劫
[–]【Barcelona】cyborgsid2 784 points 14 hours ago
The fact that Messi was the highest scorer in Europe, and won two trophies, and still wasn't nominated for this shows how much value this has really.
梅西是欧洲金靴、赢得两座冠军却还是没进候选,显示了这个奖项到底有多少价值。
[–]【Tottenham Hotspur】yaniv297 402 points 14 hours ago*
Honestly not sure what claim Salah has over him. No trophies compared to a double, Messi was the better performer this season and had a better world cup too. Salah got further in the CL but that's about it.
讲真不知道萨拉赫凭什么叫板梅西。无冠对比双冠,梅西上赛季表现更好,世界杯表现也更好。萨拉赫欧冠走得更远,但也就这点了。
[–]【Bromley】LucasTorreira 266 points 14 hours ago
hopefully a lot of younger people on this forum see your comment and use it as a case study for why you dont use trophies to measure how good someone played. as much as i like modric the reality is that hes the one who should be dropped if its actually based on performances over the whole year
希望这个坛子里有很多年轻人会看到你的评论,并且能明白为什么你不能用奖杯去衡量一个球员的表现。就我个人来说,我很喜欢莫德里奇,但事实上,如果要看整一年的表现,他是唯一一个应该被排除名单的
[–]【Liverpool】byzantiums 114 points 13 hours ago
Tbf his comment is only about Messi vs. Salah. Messi won more trophies than Salah did and still was left out. Probably more EPL bias than anything else
平心而论,之前那个评论只是单向对比梅西和萨拉赫。梅西比萨拉赫的奖杯更多但没进名单。可能英超会比较有偏向吧
[–]【Barcelona】mathaman 172 points 14 hours ago
Is this an individual award or a team award? Fifa get it clear in your mind.
这个到底是个人奖还是团体奖?FIFA先自己搞搞清楚好吗。
[–]【Barcelona】farik23 129 points 13 hours ago
Messi tops Salah in both, so no excuses for FIFA
梅西论个人论团体哪项输萨拉赫了,FIFA这地没得洗
[–]【Real Madrid】ThomasGravesen 102 points 14 hours ago
Well if Ronaldo does or doesn't go to the ceremony we will know if he has or hasn't won the trophy beforehand.
好了,C罗去不去颁奖,我们就能提前知道他有没有得奖了。
[–]【Barcelona】TheMexicanJuan 129 points 13 hours ago
Just *ucfk**ing cancel every other competition and leave CL only.
*妈的他**直接取消其他所有比赛,就打欧冠得了。
[–]【Arsenal】Unforgettable_ 224 points 14 hours ago
Wow it's true what some redditor said a few months ago, no matter how bad you were at the start of the season, as long as you win the Champions League, you're considered for player of the year... this is a disgrace
哇,所以话题区很多人之前几个月说的没错,不管你在联赛开局时候表现多么糟糕,只要你拿到欧冠,你就是年度最佳……真恶心
[–]Inexorable_Cunt 81 points 13 hours ago
as long as you win the CL
Said as if it’s an easy trophy to win.
说得好像欧冠很好拿似的。
[–]worldcleta13 88 points 13 hours ago
Or as if what he did in it was easy. 15 goals, FIFTEEN. Top scorer of the tournament for the 6th successive year. He’s also ignoring the fact that he scored 26 goals in 27 games in the league
说得好像C罗欧冠的成就很简单就能做到似的。15球,15球啊!连续6年欧冠最佳射手。另外你还忽略了他联赛27场26球的数据
[–]【Jordan】AMajali 211 points 14 hours ago
Messi has to win a treble to even get nominated for individual awards, says a lot about the standards he has set, what a legend...I love this man so much...
梅西一定要拿到三冠王才能被提名最佳,这已经说明了他为自己把标准设定到多高,真传奇……我太爱他了……