Ginobili's footwork in '03 was unprecedented at the time吉诺比利在2003年施展出来的这个脚步是当时前所未有的。
[–]TacoTown2081 274 指標 20小時前
Unprecedented or not, that was a hell of a move. Shaq went from thinking “I’m about to swat the shit out of this guy, I am Kazaam, best center to ever play” to standing still like a shaqtus
不管是不是史无前例吧，反正这个脚步是太炫酷了。奥尼尔一开始想“我可是精灵卡赞，有史以来最强中锋，看我待会不特么把这小子冒的怀疑人生”，结果没过一秒就变成了巨型仙人掌呆呆地站在那里目送马努得分。[译注1]
[译注1]：奥尼尔在电影《精灵也疯狂》（《kazaam》）中扮演过精灵卡赞。
[–]SpursSmokeyBare 48 指標 12小時前
Everyone knew Ginobili was going left, and they still couldn't stop him.
马刺球迷：所有人知道马努会从左侧突破，但就是没人能拦住他。
[–]MinionNo9 33 指標 11小時前
What's crazy is this still happens. He's going left. You know he is going left. He's been doing it for years. Just don't let him go left. Reflex takes over and you let him go left.
疯狂的是，他现在还能这么突破。他一直从左侧突破。你知道他肯定会从左侧突破。他用这招用了很多年了。人们心里都想不让他从左侧突破就行。但身体条件反射占据了主导位置，你还是会被他从左侧过掉。
[–]Spurskawhi_tho 63 指標 10小時前
Kobe brought this up in an interview, he said the Spurs have been at it for so long that there's a whole new generation of players that don't know their old tricks so they keep getting away with them
马刺球迷：科比有次在采访中提到过这事，他说马刺这套班底在一起打球太久了，新生代球员根本不了解他们这些老把戏，以至于他们还是不停地被这帮老家伙耍着玩啊。
[–]PelicansChrisTheMiss 464 指標 23小時前
i sprained my ankle just watching this
光看这个视频我就把脚给崴了。
[–]Lakersbillybobjimmyjoe 151 指標 20小時前
I got diarrhea after watching this. It may not be related though.
我看完这个拉稀了，不过可能跟视频没啥关系。
[–]SpursPapa_Huggies 54 指標 20小時前
Nah every time I see some Manu highlights I subconsciously lick raw chicken
马刺球迷：不不不，我每次看马努的高光集锦我都下意识想用舌头舔生鸡肉。
[–]IguodalasDelts 377 指標 22小時前
That definitely looks a lot harder to pull off than your standard eurostep.
这绝对比标准欧洲步难多了。
[–]WizardsFat314 176 指標 19小時前
Also might cost me a couple of ankle ligaments if I try it at full speed.
而且如果要全速来这招的话我可能得报废不少条脚踝韧带。
[–][GSW] Draymond Greennagokart 39 指標 18小時前
And squished ball sack.
而且还容易扯着蛋呢。
[–]CavalierssBarro77 21 指標 11小時前
The rules have gotten a little lax on that over time. I guarantee if you did a current euro-step in 2003 it gets called a travel.
关于脚步的规则随着时间推移比以前松了点，我敢说，如果你穿越回2003年做一个现在这种欧洲步，吹你走步是妥妥的。
[–]otis_reading 42 指標 10小時前
Manu got called for some travels early on because the refs were confused. Spurs had to educate the league that 2 steps is still 2 steps even if their taken in the opposite direction.
马努早期也因为裁判自己搞不清楚而被吹了多次走步。马刺也正因如此给联盟上了一课，走了两步就是走了两步，即使两步的方向相反那也是两步啊。
[–]nakedsamurai 509 指標 23小時前
I remember that play exactly. Ginobili didn't invent the Eurostep, but especially with this play, I was like, "What the *ucfk** was that?"
EDIT: referees often blew their whistles on these. They weren't getting it yet.
这球我记得清清楚楚的。欧洲步不是马努发明的，但是看到这球的时候我尤其懵逼，就想“这特么也可以？”
编辑：裁判们经常对（马努的脚步）响哨。他们那会儿还没弄清马努的门道。
[–]Clippersf5kkrs 227 指標 21小時前
The South Ameri-step
“南美”步。
[–]PistonsGod_Damnit_Shit 40 指標 21小時前
你这个评论不错，我喜欢，以后是我的了。
[–][POR] Wesley MatthewsBBIQ-Chicken 114 指標 20小時前
I didn't even think this was a euro-step. It's really awkward and impressive how he steps across his body.
我从没觉得他这是欧洲步。他拧着身子上篮看着是让人觉得很别扭但是真的令人印象深刻。
[–][CHA] Kemba Walkerspookyghostface 134 指標 20小時前
This is like the exact inverse of a euro-step.
感觉他这个就是把欧洲步完全反过来做了。
[–][SAS] Tim Duncanwilsonsmilk 22 指標 15小時前
Blew their whistles on these....why? It’s def 2 steps if you’re insinuating a travelling call?
马刺球迷：对马努响哨……为什么？如果你的意思是裁判吹走步，可他百分百就走了两步啊！
[–][UTA] Dell CurryDeathBySuplex 52 指標 15小時前
Nobody did those weird angles while driving so your mind automatically thinks there’s a travel.
It’s common now but at the time it looked like he was gaming the system.
Similar to Hardens timing on his step back.
因为那时候没有人像马努一样突破时走的角度如此诡异，所以裁判自然而然的就觉得这是个走步。
现在是很常见了，但是当时那会儿大家的感觉是吉诺比利钻了规则的漏洞。
就跟现在哈登后撤步的时机一样。
[–]MambaDropped81 75 指標 15小時前
Harden clearly travels on his 100 steps back
哈登那个往后撤一百步的后撤步绝壁是走步。
[–]Kings-Hoopin- 33 指標 13小時前
Sometimes but we can’t ignore his deadly step back, it’s usually legal
有的时候是走步了，但是我们也不能忽视他的致命后撤步跳投啊，一般来说都是没毛病的。
[–]Pistonsrake2204 26 指標 12小時前
I know two people have already responded but I'll add a third for the sake of consensus. At that time, there were generally accepted rhythms to about 95 percent of takeoffs in basketball. Most of them were direct-to-the-basket rhythms with an occasional light side-step (which was still mostly forward moving). Ginobili helped establish a handful of new two-step rhythms, and it took a little bit for officials to pick up on it.
活塞球迷：我知道已经俩人回复了，我再来第三条回复让大家达成共识。在当时，大约百分之95的突破上篮时的迈步节奏是被人们接受的。大多数都是大步直接冲击篮筐的步伐，偶尔会夹杂轻微向侧方迈出的一步（但仍然主要是向前移动）。吉诺比利帮忙开创了一种新的两步节奏，这也让裁判花了点时间来适应。
The NBA did a pretty good job of melding those moves into their game. It took quite a bit longer for a lot of those moves to become fully accepted at lower levels.
NBA在将这些动作融入进比赛这方面做得很不错。（相比之下）这些动作被低级别联赛完全接受花的时间反倒是有点长。
Coincidentally, I was just talking to a high school official about that era yesterday and he was pretty straight up about it. When you've been reffing for years and have established what everything's supposed to look like, there's probably going to be some growing pains when a player finds a new, odd looking way of doing things. It tends to look illegal at first, even if it's not. The official I know said he still botches at least one of those calls a year.
巧合的是，我昨天刚好和一个高中裁判谈论起了那个年代，他是很直截了当地指了出来。当你吹了很多年比赛、基本已经确定了每个动作本该是什么样子的时候，如果有球员突然另辟蹊径找到了新的操作，那裁判可能是需要经历一个成长的阵痛期的。即便动作本身是规则之内的，一开始乍一看也感觉是违规了。我认识的这个裁判说他针对这些动作每年都至少吹砸一次。
[–]Bladex10 121 指標 22小時前
I encourage every young fan to go watch a mixtape from this dude from like 2003-2007. Bah gawd this dude was so nasty in his peak
我倡议所有的年轻球迷都去看看这个家伙03-07年期间的集锦。他巅峰的时候是真滴牛鼻啊。
[–]MorningMedication 71 指標 14小時前
Kinda funny talking about his peak in 2007, and now more than 10 years later he is still playing valuable minutes
想想也挺有意思，都说他2007年是巅峰时期，没想到十几年之后的今天吉诺比利还是妖刀未老。
[–]CavalierssBarro77 22 指標 11小時前
He was still near his peak in like 2015 or so even. He had a long peak.
2015年左右他还保持着接近巅峰的状态呢。他巅峰超长。
[–]Lakers_CodyB 80 指標 18小時前
The NBA was such a wasteland in 2003.
The league still hurt from expansion, hand checking was slowing the game down considerably and you basically had a MJ Bulls hangover where teams were more focused on keeping opposing teams below 80 points then they were scoring at a high efficiency.
湖人球迷：2003年的NBA可真是一片荒原。
联盟仍受到扩张的影响，handcheck的规则让比赛的节奏变慢，联盟仍然经受着后乔丹时期后遗症之苦，球队们都致力于把对手得分压在80以下，而不是想着自己打出高效的得分。
Steve Nash, Chris Paul, no more hand checking and the decline of Shaq all contributed heavily to how the game is today but Manu Ginobili belongs in that category as well. He didn't give a single *ucfk** about the NBA conventions at the time and he absolutely abused 2nd units and even starting guys that were simply not very good.
纳什保罗的横空出世、handcheck的取消以及奥尼尔的衰退都一定程度上导致了如今比赛风格的出现。但马努也是改变联盟走向的因素之一。他根本没把联盟的惯例当回事，他完全虐烂了各支球队的第二阵容，甚至有些不是那么出色的首发球员在他面前也是挨虐的命。
[–]WheresMySaucePlease 127 指標 23小時前
I'm a huge manu fan but it wasn't unprecedented
我是马努铁粉，但是有一说一，主楼这个也并不是史无前例的一球。
[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 87 指標 22小時前
Yeah, but it's true that his moves were "outlandish" at the time. He credited it to playing a lot of soccer when he wass growing up.
湖人球迷：没错，但他的动作在那会算是非常荒唐的。他将其归功于小时候踢球的经历。
Kobe used to say that he wished that he had practiced more soccer when he was younger and that watching Manu confirmed this because then he'd have some moves integrated that other players wouldn't expect.
科比曾经说过，他真希望自己在年轻的时候能多踢踢球，并且，在科比看见马努的表现后，他更加确信了踢球是对打篮球有帮助的，因为那时马努会做出一些其他球员预料不到的动作。
[–]FinalFrash 54 指標 19小時前
The Dream Shake was also born out of soccer.
On the other hand, I want to see someone integrate the Bicycle Kick in basketball
大梦舞步也是取自于足球。
话又说回来了，我是挺想看见有人能把倒挂金钩融入到篮球运动里来。
[–]76ersHandsomeBadger 75 指標 19小時前
thon already got it
雄鹿的梅克已经学成了。[译注2]
[译注2]：梅克在与菲律宾的国际比赛中脚踹对方球员遭到禁赛处罚。